[iansilvers]

I picked up my Q30 Black Edition last Saturday. By Monday, it was back in the garage with a rear indicator failure. Rear light cluster needed replacing and hopefully being carried out today. I should have the car back tomorrow.
Got a loan of a Q30S in place of mine. Nice car, but I am looking forward to getting my own back.






First time I have ever had a car off the road for more than 1 day, so hope this is not a sign of things to come with the Q30.

 

[Zeus]

Did you get the black edition when they had that promotion ?? Welcome to the forums btw and congratulations

That sucks that you're having issues so early, but thankfully it's nothing super crazy.

 

[infinite]

Glad to hear you got one.

Are you planning to get paint protection done? Being as new as it is, getting all that stuff done now is much easier than down the road when scratches, dents, dings, etc. build up.

It helps even more if you have to keep your vehicle out in the sun for an extended period of time day in and day out.

 

[rowi]

Usually electronics fails immediately or lasts forever. So you may hope the best ... especially as these LED components are rather expensive.
I have also the choice between Q30 and Q30S, and I think I will opt for the Q30.

 

[Pat]

We have the Q30 1.6t DCT Premium Tech with all options, 8000 km on the clock now, it's a great car.

Beware the "S" is 2 cm lower!

 

[infinite]

We have the Q30 1.6t DCT Premium Tech with all options, 8000 km on the clock now, it's a great car.

Beware the "S" is 2 cm lower!

With all those KM's racked on it did you notice a difference in your MPG's from the time you got it? Because usually after breaking it in enough (which you have done) I heard MPG's can improve or at least stabilize.

 

[Pat]

Can’t say I noticed a difference, the thing is, out of a total of 4600 miles, only 45% represent long trips on highways and motorways, the rest consists of very short rides in dreadful city traffic (Paris area) with a ridiculous average speed.

At this rate, with 4600 miles on the clock and an average speed of 20 mph overall, the resulting average consumption is 31 mpg.

In essence (pardon the pun), I would say that the mpg is very typical of a relatively small turbo charged petrol engine, i.e. sober enough on long distance on motorways (up to 36 mpg) and thirsty in bad city traffic, nothing new under the sun.

 

[infinite]

That's great. Now we just need to see how that holds up to a good sample size of Q30's.

Adding to that some time down the line we might see Infiniti add low rolling resistance tires to these, something to look out for in MPG reports.

 

[Pat]

Personally, I wouldn’t trust low rolling resistance tires, too risky on the wet.

 

[Zeus]

I haven't had any experience with low resistance tires and to my knowledge, I only know that they use them on EVs ? I haven't heard of regular vehicles using them.

 

[infinite]

I haven't had any experience with low resistance tires and to my knowledge, I only know that they use them on EVs ? I haven't heard of regular vehicles using them.

I've only seen them offered on new vehicles and its easy to see why, helps a car maker crunch those MPG numbers and rank well among its rivals. On an individual level there's little motivation especially to those with some more skin in the game. As long as you have good driving habits the MPG gains from low rolling resistance tires won't matter that much to you.

 

[Pat]

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I've only seen them offered on new vehicles and its easy to see why, helps a car maker crunch those MPG numbers and rank well among its rivals. On an individual level there's little motivation especially to those with some more skin in the game. As long as you have good driving habits the MPG gains from low rolling resistance tires won't matter that much to you.

Too true !

 

[infinite]

Putting it even more into perspective, just remind yourselves what vehicle your coming from because odds are even without you micro-managing your driving habits on the Q30 you'll still be better off.

SO, factoring in all of that... without much effort and micro-managing, we have it good with the Q30.

 

[InfiniteClass]

Did some research and CR has it that they pretty much add 1-2mpg difference. That is definitely such a minor difference it'll come down to one or two drops of the pedal. Too insignificant to justify going for them.

 

[Zeus]

Well if that's the case then it's really not worth me looking at them. So why do people make such a big deal about them in that case?

 

[InfiniteClass]

Because they're new and being advertised as a tire that will save you on fuel. What they don't tell you is that they're a trade-off on grip under braking and cornering.

 

[infinite]

For marketing purposes every number counts, virality is what they want. But typical forum goers like us don't care about that, we know better, we KNOW (or should) that a decent sample size of real world numbers is what matters.

Too bad publications don't do that, just us owners.

 

[Zeus]

Publications are all in it for the end result of achieving some sort of perk out of it as well though. They make a company seem great, they get some sort of incentives, they're happy. It's tough to find real publications that give you hardcore facts and a straight up answer that isn't blowing smoke up a certain somewhere.

 

[InfiniteClass]

For marketing purposes every number does count, but when they can't provide enticing numbers, it all comes down to word play. We as real enthusiasts dig deeper and do the testing to see what real world values are and dub it a pointless pos. Unfortunately, there aren't a lot of enthusiasts that dig that deep compared to the mass numbers that fall for marketing lingo and that nonsense which supply them with more funding to bring the next pos a year later.

 

[infinite]

The only perk for publications is that car makers won't black list them, but even that's not a problem since it just means waiting a bit longer to get the vehicle another way. Not always is being first the best thing to do. Buyers want valuable information and that's not always done through being first.